tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7397970649062371366.post8387573193431338630..comments2024-03-19T12:00:16.160+00:00Comments on The Deptford Dame: Paynes & Borthwick wharfUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7397970649062371366.post-11846867468774642002014-09-01T19:40:09.714+00:002014-09-01T19:40:09.714+00:00the name on the river front says Paynes Paper Whar...the name on the river front says Paynes Paper Wharf I know that Paynes Wharf was never used for storing paper onlr general cargo when Palmers owned it , then it was a plant for seperating the white of eggs from the yellow. Another mistake by the developers.Mr T W Tait ex dockermr t w taitnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7397970649062371366.post-51829085040735203352013-05-24T11:44:20.932+00:002013-05-24T11:44:20.932+00:00Sometime on from the original post, but I was only...Sometime on from the original post, but I was only investigating the proposals for this site today. My concern would be mainly about where anyone is going to park if they are visiting the restaurant/retail/art gallery. It is clearly not going to be allowed in the underground car park for non-residents.David Riddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15841234446226688028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7397970649062371366.post-12626772689081065882012-10-02T16:50:08.056+00:002012-10-02T16:50:08.056+00:00@Michael That's a nice irony. I'm no histo...@Michael That's a nice irony. I'm no historian but according to Wikipedia the area used to be referred to as West Greenwich in the 18th century. These things change and who knows with the will of the developers behind it the name may well return to common usage. martinohsknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7397970649062371366.post-65737819764606716742012-10-01T12:51:50.917+00:002012-10-01T12:51:50.917+00:00Ha ha, I remember telling a friend I lived in '...Ha ha, I remember telling a friend I lived in 'West Greenwich' in the 1980s, as a joke. I don't think these people are smiling :-)Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17996759145644373272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7397970649062371366.post-74876734242108800782012-09-28T16:04:01.357+00:002012-09-28T16:04:01.357+00:00I would expect the new riverfront promenade will b...I would expect the new riverfront promenade will be open to the public through the centre of the development as well due to the presence of the gallery space,studios,cafes and restaurants. They would never be able to survive otherwise.<br /><br />Apart from the effect of the extra traffic which anyway will ultimately be dwarfed by the Convoys Wharf traffic volumes), this seems a great addition to the area and, at least to my eyes, looks like one of the best new builds in SE London currently. martinohsknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7397970649062371366.post-1263036659032290602012-09-27T17:33:09.779+00:002012-09-27T17:33:09.779+00:00The river front areas will be public with a small ...The river front areas will be public with a small gate into The Watergate so it will be a really interesting route and will not spoil the stairs that go down to the ferry and the jetty. It will be wonderful to have the atmosphere of the watergate back when the bracing structure comes down in a few months time.<br />The big question on this development is what is to become of the gallery space- it really could be a huge draw for Deptford if something interesting goes in there. <br />What is the future of the Mastershipwrights House in all this? It has been very quiet lately- has it been sold to a developer too?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7397970649062371366.post-2363543276482195092012-09-26T10:10:34.122+00:002012-09-26T10:10:34.122+00:00@Alan I don't think there is, as it would be d...@Alan I don't think there is, as it would be difficult, perhaps impossible to create an access at the west end of the site where the retained facade is right up against the steps at Watergate Street. Even if a riverfront access were created, cyclists and pedestrians would have to come back inland to bypass the Master Shipwrights House. Also at the east end the river frontage is blocked by the Ahoy Centre. However I assume from the renderings that the public will have access to the river through the centre of the development, even if they can't access it from the two ends. Or perhaps I'm being naive, I haven't been able to look at the documents in detail as they aren't on the planning portal.Deptford Damenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7397970649062371366.post-51727984419932215112012-09-26T10:02:13.273+00:002012-09-26T10:02:13.273+00:00I can't see from the pictures whether they'...I can't see from the pictures whether they've included a footpath/cycle path along the river. I thought, naively no doubt, that there was a sort of general idea that riverfront developments should include such a route as a way of getting the Thames Path really along the Thames.Alan Burkitt-Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17344807923068268667noreply@blogger.com